| I was really pleased by the vast majority of your posts during our previous digital conversation. Although I did not respond to every student, I had the opportunity to read your postings. Most of you gave the assignment the detail and attention it required and responded to your classmates thoughtfully. In class today, we will be focusing on the article we read during our last meeting, A Punch is Seen, and a Player Is Out and Ray Rice and His Rage. I'd like you to focus on answer the following:
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Wednesday, September 17, 2014
Critical Thinking: Ray Rice
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1. The way I see it, our cultural perception on who gets abused is women by men. Why do they get abused? Simply put, it’s because we as men sometimes cannot deal with the fact that a woman is higher than us in intelligence, athleticism, wisdom, etc. The sad part is, we know better than to act on these situations. But rather than “being a man” about them and just admitting that a woman may be better than us at something, we take regrettable action, whether it be saying something hurtful or hurting a woman physically. Why do we take these actions instead of defusing the problem? Because sadly, some men are confined within the walls of masculinity, and feel as if they’re not being man enough by letting a woman get away with achieving things that we often cannot.
ReplyDelete2. “I do deeply regret the role I played in the incident that night.” –Janay Palmer
What Ms. Palmer is saying in a summarized format is that she takes responsibility for hitting Mr. Rice first. This is truly honorable and commendable of her to say being that she is the victim in this case. However, the words she chose to say may actually mean more than what is heard/read. The fact that she “deeply” regrets what she did means that she feels awful about it. But why? I think it’s safe to say that woman can sometimes lose their head when things hit the fan, and some hands might go flying. We as men know this. So does she regret what she did deeply because she feels women should have more self-control? Or is she deeply regretting what happened because she knows she might be in deep trouble if she doesn’t? Nonetheless, it was a smart statement that helped her image and showed young woman that sometimes, they could be the bigger man.
3. Someone in this situation that can be considered a wrong-doer is the coach of the Baltimore Ravens, John Harbaugh. Before the full video of Ray Rice hitting his then fiancée leaked to the public, Mr. Harbaugh said that Mr. Rice will be a part of this team. This statement alone shows what kind of coach he really is. In high school basketball, a good coach would not let one of his players continue to be a part of the team if his grades were poor. This player would have to prove his worthiness by getting his grades on track. So why shouldn’t Mr. Rice have to prove his worthiness? Especially in a case like this where the stakes are higher, the crime is far greater, and the consequences are severe. For Mr. Harbaugh to let this man play on a national football team after what he did, regardless of a video, is unacceptable and quite frankly disgusting. It shows how much more he cares about what had happened than Mr. Rice himself.
4. I predict that the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence in a way that is allowed by the sports fans. The fact that there even is a divide between keeping him on the team and suspending him shows that we, as a whole society, do not care enough about what really matters. I’m a sports fan. I also really enjoy watching football in particular. I even recognize and admire certain players, just like any die-hard sports fan would. Yet I do not condone this kind of behavior. I wouldn’t condone it even if someone close to me committed this crime. Because we have to be fair to one another. There shouldn’t be special treatment or better conditions for someone that has done wrong simply because they can throw and catch a ball better than most. But there are those people who are simply in denial about what matters. You can tell yourself that the Ravens winning the super bowl is more important than a woman being scared for her life, but deep down, you know which one effects your life more.
In your first paragraph I loved how you broke down your explanation, also your opinion on why people get abused or who is the abuser, I can definitely agree with. I definitely think some men are confined within the walls of masculinity, I believe it is those same walls that cause an "abuser" to act the way they do and cause the pain they do to their victim.
DeleteIsaiah, excellent work answering the questions posed. Your replies were eloquent and well thought out. In your response to question 2, my thinking diverges from yours. I interpreted Ms. Palmer's avowal of guilt as taking the blame for provoking the attack, which is a common reaction to abuse for victims of domestic violence. To me, this exemplifies that the relationship is almost textbook-like in adhering the the characteristics of a typical abusive relationship.
DeleteI like in what you did in your 1st paragraph how you broke down your explanation to prove your point. it's true that we a guys sometimes hate it when a girl always think that there superior in many ways. In someway we let our primitive nature to take over and try to show dominant in any situation at times. Which some time annoys me because in the end we regret those action because either if we hurt a random stranger or someone very close to us. In someway this is also can be consider a type of "abuse" in that form of case.
DeleteYour first paragraph is really strong and I like how you put it all together. I agree that sometimes the whole masculinity thing gets to men, and how they might feel they aren't really a man when a woman is putting in more. The quote you picked went well with your reasoning but at the same time I feel like she more so blamed herself. I agree that females lose their cool, but the way he didn't even have a reaction after he hit her says a lot. It sort of seems that she felt it was her fault she got punched in the face because she slapped him on the chest. Her hit was nothing compared to his, although there shouldnt have been any hitting to start with. To me, I feel she must've been "deeply" sorry because of the trouble it has gotten Ray Rice into now. The coach is definitely a wrong doer here because he flipped answers according to who had known what was going on.
Delete1.My cultural perception on who gets abused and why they get abused is complicated. First of all, I don’t think anybody should be getting abused. But in my opinion the abuser is the weak person who has their own issues and doesn’t know how to take it out so they take it out on the stronger person. I say the stronger person because the person receiving the abuse takes it and doesn’t back down from it. Although, the stronger person is also weak because they can’t stand up for themselves. They get the abuse because the weak person sees they did it once, it could be done again. The stronger person might fear the other which is a reason why they get abused.
ReplyDelete2.“When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen.” This was said by the coach. This means that when someone drinks in public they tend to get into fights without them wanting it to happen. The word choice most definitely influences my opinion, how can someone say when you have a couple of drinks you tend to knock someone out cold? Ask if that’s okay to do. The word choice here was very off, he should’ve thought it out a little more before saying this.
3.There were many wrong-doers in this situation. The fans, the coach, the team mates, and the wife as well. One wrong doing which I do not agree with at all is the wife. The example that she is setting out for women out there is very wrong, many women actually do look up to athletes partners. She is letting women know that it’s okay to get knocked out physically by a man who is ridiculously bigger than her. She is also doing very wrong by pleading and not putting any charges against him. Women like this do not respect themselves and shouldn’t allow men to touch them in that way, she is in an abusive relationship, they both are. She could’ve left him and gave herself dignity, this would’ve made something’s different.
4.My prediction on this saga will be that many players of any sport will watch more carefully what they do and how they act to certain things. The consequences that Rice had to suffer I’m sure no other player of any type of sport would want to go through. The impact that it will make on sports fans however is going to change in my opinion, athletes will get more looked into their personal lives and be judged by what was or would be done in the future.
-Franchesca Bourdier
I agree that no one should be getting abused to being with. Also that the stronger person is also weak because they cant stand up for their selves. Also in your last paragraph how you said that athletes will get more looked into their personal lives and be judged by what was and would be done in the future. i think not only should a person be looked at as a professional because of how they play but also who they are as a person.
DeleteWe both have similar ideas with your quote choice and your predication of how the saga will play out and I agree with you. Players should be more careful of what they do. Another point you had was about the quote you chose. Just cause someone drinks to much, doesn't mean he has the right to hit someone. The coach did should have thought it out a little more before making that statement.
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Delete1.My cultural perception of domestic abuse on why people get abused is that they may cause it for them self. Some people try to act big and think that something’s revolve around them. People also get abused because they may be too weak to defend themselves. The abuser tends to take advantage on weak people for them to feel powerful. An abuser is someone who likes to take advantage of someone that can’t defend themselves.
ReplyDelete2.“He makes mistake. There’s no justifying what happened” it means that rice made a mistake and no one knows what really happened or why he did it. The word choice influences my opinion because the coach is making this seem as if rice made a mistake and everyone can make one. It factors into the issue at hand because he makes it seem like it is okay to hit a lady because it was only a “mistake”
3.The coach was one of those “wrong-doers” he was behind rice the entire time thought that what rice did was a mistake and that people should support the person without condoning the action. Their actions might affect others because he’s saying that no matter what the person does you should always have their back and support them. The coach could have went out there and said that what rice did was wrong, that no one should ever hit a girl. The coach could of supported him but in a different manner.
4.My prediction of how this will impact the perceptions of domestic violence by sport fans is that they will think it may be acceptable to hit a female or any gender. Sport fans are people that set football players, basketball players or any type of people that are professionals as role models. The people that watch sport and see that they barely took any action to this matter will believe that hitting a person is something you should do.
_Tiffany Ceijas
i like the way you described abuse, and i find that true what you say as well abuse happens to people who are to weak to defend themselves. I also like what your prediction on how the fans would react to this and i agree that most sport fans would think it would be acceptable to hit a female or any type of person in general...But at the same time people would believe it's ok to hit a person which i agree again with that, because every know how sports fans get.
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DeleteI completely agree with you on your first paragraph. I definitely think that an abuser takes advantage, maybe cause the person being abused is intimidated or feels threatened. The coach does make it seem like what Rice did was okay, and his choice of words wasn't well put at all. I disagree with other players thinking that its okay to hit females. I think this will be an eye opener and they will realize that their careers could end very quickly by making a stupid choice. Their actions are not only seeing publicly, but their reputation will be ruined. Other than that, well put and I agree with your other points.
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ReplyDeleteWell when comes to domestic abuse, it happens everywhere people can’t denial it, meaning that this certain abuse happens worldwide and no say anything about that’s one thing that I really can’t stay at all whether it’s someone famous or not I can’t stand it. I think the fact that the reason someone gets abuse is maybe something is going on in their personal life or maybe the person doesn’t speak out and still lets the abuse keep happening that may be a reason why people get abuse, simply because that one person is afraid on what would happen and all. Well an abuser to me is someone who just keeps hurting someone regardless what consequences are and just keeps going on like does people I hear the news where they talk about someone abusing a person, that to me is abuse.
ReplyDeleteWell when the Coach said, “He’s a person of character. The thing that’s really important is to be able to support the person without condoning the action. He makes a mistake. There’s no justifying what happened. When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen.” So what the coach is saying is that just because he’s a person of “character that one thing he did to his wife is excusable? Yes people make mistakes, but one thing I’m understanding is that this thing happen like it’s a normal thing, and you know what it isn’t, that’s just down right awful to say this about a person who’s probably done it before a reason not to get in trouble, and took him one more video to just kick him out, he should of kick him out before this issue is one serious issue that I’m surprise he got away with in the beginning. In other words my opinion stays the same that he’s should have been kick out ASAP and not given a chance.
The wrong-doer in the story in my opinion the coach and here’s my reason why I say he’s a wrong-doer, the fact that he said “those kind of things happen.” It just blew my mind I was like is he saying the fact that one of his player did that act and it’s okay that’s it’s normal, are you kidding me, the fact that he try to defend his player and telling everyone that he would still play regardless what occurred in the video. I think he should flat out say that he would take action to this and just release him from the team. It’s going to make him look bad, not only as a coach but as a person as well, I think he should have talk to him but nope he did the complete opposite instead of releasing him, he let him play. There’s not more I want to add to this I just think, the coach should have done something different.
The domestic violence would impact the fans it would surprise them in a way that are going to view it in a wrong way, meaning that kids look up to this stars and the fact that he did what he did, it’s a bad message if you ask me, that’s going to make them look bad for the team in general which could leave the team in big problems so it doesn’t affect his life it affects the whole team, if you think about, like if the fans see him doing that would it create a lot of debate between the fans and the players thing about for moment, I also want to add it’s going to leave the fans speechless.
1. My cultural perception of domestic violence is that people should not be getting abused at all especially women. Domestic violence should not be allowed anywhere just because it is a very serious matter. People sometimes get abused because of the abuser just having anger issues or being too violent. Abusers might be taking things that they aren’t supposed to be taking that leads them to being abusive. So this causes them to do very harmful things. Some people just don’t have self-control at all so they can’t handle certain situations and tend to abuse women. Us people have to learn how to have self-control and how to handle certain situations so that the number of domestic abusers goes down.
ReplyDelete2. “Up to seven in 10 women around the world experience physical and/or sexual violence at some point in their lifetime.” This quote means that there is a lot of innocent girls that are getting abused every day of their lives. It also means that there is a lot of men that are very abusive around the country. This does influence my opinion a lot because it is disturbing to know that a lot of women are getting hurt and nothing is being done about it. It factors in this issue because Ray Rice is one of those men that are abusive and still might get a chance to play in the NFL. I believe domestic violence laws should be enforced more than what it is.
3. I believe some of the wrong doers are the fans of Ray Rice. They are the wrong doers because they are supporting Ray Rice even though he did something really bad. His fans would accept him back into the team and the NFL when he clearly does not deserve to be back. Even though as a fan of the game and me being a huge fan of the ravens and once was a fan of Ray Rice I believe he does not deserve to be back at all. I can’t believe there are some fans that would accept him back it’s really a shame to know that. The fans action might affect others because they are trying to say that this is okay when in reality it’s not okay at all.
4. I don’t think ray rice’s saga will not impact any sports fans. I don’t think it will cause sports fans go through this all the time. This is not the first time it happens. This is not the first time there has been a case with domestic abuse. It happens all the time and after a while fans just tend to forget about it. So this is why I don’t think it will change.
I agree with your last paragraph the sports fans and the fact that it isn't the first time it happens, there are other players that have done much worse and still manage to keep their position and image. So definitely think this will be another story to add to the books. It'll be in the news for a couple more days and then fans and the people will magically forget about it.
DeleteI also believe that one of the wrong doers in the ravens fans. I agree with everything you said its unbelievable that the fans don't care about the crime he committed. It's embarrassing how many regular people are sticking up for this guy. I am disappointed that there are people that just ignore the crime that he did and want him back because all they care about is a game and having a better chance of winning.
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1) In our time I think the mentality is that the abuser 9 times out of 10 is the man, the woman is the victim. Men are bigger and stronger then the woman who can be considered somewhat “weak” for being small and defensive-less. Our culture is obsessed with the idea that domestic violence is only caused by men which in reality anybody could be an abuser in the relationship. I think people receive abuse because they allow it. It’s a cycle, domestic violence happens once; no one takes action and continues to happen over and over again.
2) The quote I choose is when Mr. Rice says “One thing I can say is that sometimes in life, you will fail. But I won’t call myself a failure. Failure is not getting knocked down; it’s not getting back up.” To me it’s horrible that he used this metaphor, he wasn’t thinking of failure when he was hovering over his passed out wife. But his quote was basically stating he wasn’t going to let this affect him and try to keep on moving forward from this. In my opinion this doesn’t help when you’re trying to persuade yourself back into the audience’s good favor. He should have been more careful with the words he choose.
3) One of the “wrong-doers” in this situation is his wife; actually she’s one of the biggest wrong doers in this whole mess. In her apologizing for being “part” of the incident that night was disgusting. She basically gave Ray Rice the power to do it all over again, she’s brainwashed in my opinion. She did not have any part in this whole incident, Mr. Rice was the one who put his hands on her, and those were HIS actions, not hers. Her saying this basically gives no hope to any other women who might have been hit by her boyfriend/husband, she’s allowing it to continue and other victims sadly will take her as an example and allow it.
4) My prediction is that the sports fan will sadly ultimately be in Mr. Rice favor, as I said in class, some fans are even wearing his jerseys to games and saying his punishment was wrong. I think because he is a football player a lot of the sports fan are giving a blind eye to what he really did. They’re giving him a pass just so they can still see him play. Many fans have stated they were to harsh on Mr. Rice which is mind blogging but to them it seems they are in his favor.
yes anyone can be an abuser in the relationship i agree with that but when you say "I think people receive abuse because they allow it." which don't get me wrong it's your opinion but it's not that the one getting abuse is allow it it just that they are afraid to ask for help or in this case speak out. were you trying to say that because i didn't understand that part, but i had read the other part and love it.
DeleteYea that was sort of my idea. I guess I didn't explain it that clearly but yes I agree a lot of abuse victims are afraid of to speak out or receive any help and thank you :)
DeleteI completely agree with your 4th answer Nat , because like i said , nobody should have any excuse or support for hurting a woman. Women should not be hit , period. I also think many of the fans , just because they love Rice , support what he did , or at least defend him, which to me is completely wrong because that is still a crime . Like you said , they gave him a pass , but they shouldn't have , because now many other players might do just the same.
DeleteI strongly agree with your 4th paragraph Natalie that many athletes should watch what they do in their lives. While reflecting upon what RIces so they won't have to suffer the same fate as he did nobody should excuse for what did in a certain in their lives. In my opinion being in some way the honorable thing to do is least not to lie to somebody if you did it like what anyone would do.
Deletei completely agree with your first paragraph, many people go by the idea that only the men in the relationship are the ones that obuse the other partner which is wrong like you said. He did sound very cocky about what he said to the audience, he doesn't care and won't let what he did affect him and his career. I also i agree with the last paragraph, this situation is basically ridiculous every fan is blind every fan that is still supporting him and going for him saying that was okay needs to have a reality check in their life cause what was done is and will never be okay, many women need to understand this and raise their self esteem.
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ReplyDeleteIn the 21st century our cultural perception of domestic abuse is that its a crime. Domestic violence is viewed as a very bad thing in our society which wasn't the case many years ago. People get abused because their partners are ignorant or have mental problems. The reason why they continue to take the abuse could be because they feel trapped and don't know what to do. They might still love this person and think that they will eventually change. An abuser in this case is someone who probably has anger issues due to taking steroids or being hit in the head too many times. It could also be someone that grew up with an abusive parent who used to abuse his partner or abuse him.
ReplyDelete“There’s no justifying what happened. When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen - John Harbaugh”. I feel like he's trying to downplay what happened by saying that these kinds of thing happen when you're drunk in public. Being drunk does not justify what he did. No man, drunk or not, should hit a women. So by saying this he's implying that this is something normal when in reality its not.
There are a lot of wrong do-ers in this situation, but for me the biggest one is the players association because they are trying to get his ban removed. If people continue to get away with things without any consequences then it will set a bad example for future generations of football players. If many of their heroes growing up get away with this and that without any real punishment then they will also grow up thinking that they could get away with things just because they are talented football players. I agree with the NFL banning him and setting an example for the future. I believe it will help their league in the long run.
Domestic violence is something that is not talked about because most of the time it happens behind closed doors and it's not seen much in the media. Even though that it has decreased in recent years it's still a big problem. Assuming he does stay banned or gets a big suspension/pay cut then I think this will make a good impact for younger sports fans and future football players. They will see that domestic violence is a very negative thing and it's not to be taken lightly.
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DeleteYou are right, not matter that happens with ray rice whether he still stays banned or get out of ban and becomes eligible to play again, the younger sports fan to strive to be like them will have to think about the situation. Why would they work hard in order to reach their goal to become a professional NFL player, finally reaching your goal to have all that taken away from you for committing a "mistake" that could of been handled differently? They don't know how to take advantage of the opportunity given to you.
Our cultural perception on domestic abuse is that it’s a very bad thing. There shouldn’t be any type of violence between anyone in this world we live in, but there is. You’re an abuser if you’re the one starting first, really. You strike back impulsively is an automatic assumption that it’s your fault. No one asks if maybe the other person who was hit was saying things to taunt the abuser. Things that may have weakened him and made him snap. I figure people get abused for many reasons. They ask for it in a sense of taunting, the abuser may see the person about to be abused as fragile and an easy target to release anger, or maybe some type of hatred, which all falls into the same emotion. I’m not defending any side. I feel like domestic violence happens because there are really no huge consequences. Also, us humans forget that there are even prices to pay. We usually just react in a violent manner.
ReplyDeleteThe Baltimore Ravens’ coach, John Harbaugh, stood by Rice, saying, “He will be part of our team,” and continuing: “He’s a person of character. The thing that’s really important is to be able to support the person without condoning the action. He makes a mistake. There’s no justifying what happened. When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen.” Understanding that he’s the coach for the team but to sound sketchy by saying “There’s no justifying what happened.” Is almost like him and the team are hiding something. Maybe they already saw the second tape and were hoping it doesn’t go viral, but since it did, he was trying to throw it under the bus by pretending to be in shock on the situation. It’s one thing to defend your “family” and to defend them without throwing yourself out there with evidence. Which caused the consequences to get extreme, with expulsion of the player, Rice. Rather than it’s formers punishment which was suspension of two games. He did deserve this treatment; that way other players of any sport can see that drastic things can happen and will be taken seriously; not like how he was first going to be penalized.
One of the many “wrong-doers” from the whole Rice case was mostly the coach, but since it was already discussed, I would say the wife, Palmer. She didn’t charge him, and stood beside him throughout it all. If you ask me, I believe that there wasn’t any love there from the start. Just false advertisement. Though I feel like that about most celebrities love affairs. I get us humans do get easily lost under the influence of anything and sure it was him “drunk”, but she was already awake when he sat her down by the elevator. Not one apology was given to her and she didn’t care to question why. She probably thought if I say anything, there will be no money in or out. Or maybe even worse, fear. Fear of what he’s capable of, sober.
I do believe that the whole Ray Rice Saga may make a huge impact on the sport fans. In a way that will make them think twice on their physical actions towards not only females, but anyone. It is to be taken seriously and be respected because you can’t just expect no one to want to hit you or anything if you’re doing the same to others. It’s a matter of self change and control. There’s a time and place for everything, but violence isn’t just necessary in any circumstances. It shows weakness, not honor. Plus, nothing is gained. Not even respect.
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DeleteI have to agree with you when sports fans now are going to have to think twice if they ever become in a situation that ray rice was in. Like you said, hitting a guy or girl there should be a time and place for every situations, and various solutions you can come up with in order to not to get in trouble. It can happen any where, at work or even school. Why get fired or kicked out when there can be another outcome.
My cultural perception of being abused is when you treat another human being with extreme aggravation and cruelty. To be abused may involve physical abuse, where the abuser can hurt the victim by slapping, punching, or even kicking them. However, you can also be verbally abused where they find it within their self’s to curse and yell at another. People may get abused due to anger issues or because they feel some sort of hate towards another person. People might also get abused due to feeling superior towards the victim. In addition, an abuser can be any one who can try to control you. They might feel that are worth more than you so they find the need to threaten you and blame the victim for why they act or do the things they do,
ReplyDeleteAs stated in the article Ray Rice and His Rage by Charles M. Blow, “At no point does he appear to attend to her, appear shocked at what he has done to her or appear to have much concern for her at all” (Blow page 1). After reading that statement and judging by the video provided by TMZ, after he punches his wife out cold he feels no pity towards his actions. In a way he might of felt what he did was the right thing to do since in the video he starts to drag her out the elevator like a rag doll. He might have been mad and be unable to his anger, but right after he punch her, at least some guilty should’ve been shown. He might have come back to realization and ask to himself why he do what he did. The quote really explains his through process during the incident since by the video it demonstrates how he knocked her out, and what didn’t cross his mind was to seek medical attention.
“The thing that’s really important is to be able to support the person without condoning the action” (Blow page 1). Coach Harbaugh statement after careful consideration basically says that we should support the player no matter what the crime he has done, which I believe he can be identified as a “wrong-doer”. The coach is obviously on the player side because he is part of his team, and being a part of a team indicates full support from each other through right and wrong. He is basically saying he made a mistake and blaming it on the alcohol, that because he drank that’s what caused this all to happen. Even if you are drunk, you always know what you are doing. Although they are a team, they should set him as in example in order to show the team that domestic violence is and won’t be tolerated.
Sports fans are the ones who have the most perception on this whole Ray Rice Incident. Sports face look up to their star players, but after seeing how they act outside from the field changes their mind into a negative vibe towards them. You are supposed to hit people in the field, where it is legal and also your rival is physically and mentally prepared to take a hit. Why would anyone want to look up to someone who hits women for any given reason? It is just not morally right.
- David Segura
ReplyDelete1. Our cultural perception on why people get abused and who are abuser are mostly caused by the people themselves. However to be direct about it the
abuse usually happen not only to people who are pick on most of the time, but even the abuser are also pick on some of the time. Although the abusement always begins at home or at schools at times and it spreads like a wild fire as more people get abuse either that person can e strong, weak, ill, young or old it cycle that will never end. In the end of it all it always as well the women of any country who are abused by men or it the other way around, but it some who think that there all that and are willing to put their partner through painful and hurtful manner from various abuse. Sadly this is how society is and always been now of days and it feels like that at times we don't take it serious change ourselves for the better.
2. '" When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen."
This is what John Harbaugh, Ray Rice's coach said when he stood by him and told that to the press. What he is trying to say in the passage is that when guys usually over drink which leads them act overly macho to others most of the time. Thus cause a fight in public in the end but it one of those kinds of fights were that person who's drinking never tended on a situation on happening. Most of the times people who go out for a couple of drink would usually bring some friends with them to keep him/her at bay so situation like these wouldn't happen but for Rice's case he has to take responsibility for it. In my option the coach himself should have try to word it little bit better for everyone to understand his point.
3. A "wrong-doer" who i could think of in this passage would be Ray Rice's couch, John Harbaugh because during that time when Rice appeared to the grand jury his coach stand by his and supporting him. In the article he said that,"He makes mistake, there's no justifying what happened. When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happens." however that does not excuse him for hitting his wife like by knocking her out and leaving her in that condition. I would entirely understand a coach would back and support their player like any other friend would i respect that, but as a person he has to take responsibility for his actions. Yes people also make mistake in their lives so often I get that this type of situation is normal but what i don't understand is that at the beginning why they let his punishment so lightly when it was a severe case and should be taken seriously. In my option and belief is that Rice should have been either suspended indefinitely or kick out from the NFL because in that case he's setting a bad example to his fans mostly the portion who are children and are still learn in that stage of development.
4. My prediction on Ray Rice's saga will many players in the NFL or in any sport in that matter will have to learn from event that has occurred. In order to prevent any future situation like the one of Ray Rice to happen again the player themselves to be careful from now on. The punishment that Rice had been given was the right choice for the action that he committed in my option. Although to ever fan out there who cared and support the Ravens specially Rice this must be the biggest impact for them as well as their favorite player who they probably idolize to see him doing such horrible thing to the person he say he loves. I hopefully believe that athletes on this time or in the near future should reflect upon this and to be careful on what they do in public in their personal lives and to also bring someone close to them to stop them from any wring actions.
I agree with your response that many people from the NFL should be careful of what occurred with Ray Rice case. I also believe that Ray Rice being release from the ravens and suspended from the NFL was the right choice.Also that the fans should have realize that their favorite basketball player is doing horrible violence to his wife should make them lose respect for him.The athletes should keep their personal lives to them selves. I hope in the future that everyone should take this into consideration.
DeleteI agree with your last paragraph where you stated that "you are supposed to hit people in the field, where it is legal and also your rival is physically and mentally prepared to take a hit. In what ever sport you may be playing some how someone else will shove you for example playing basketball where you have to be aggressive.
ReplyDeleteMy perception of domestic abuse is that is wrong and no one shouldn’t be getting abuse mentally, emotionally especially physically. Domestic abuse should be taken seriously around the world not just the United States. I think now a days anyone could get abuse just because of their race, gender, age, their sexuality, having a physical or mental ability, and their cultural background. Those who abuses others are the ones that probably aren’t comfortable or maybe don’t like that person because of who they are. The abusers were probably raised in a different mentality or environment where they think its fine to hurt others.
ReplyDelete“Staying doesn’t excuse the abuse itself, and it can actually embolden the abuser.” If a woman decides to stay in a relationship knowingly she has gotten abuse by her intimate that doesn’t excuse the abuse to keep happening but it could encourage her partner to keep abusing her because she decided to stay in the relationship. It does influence my opinion because the abuse shouldn’t be happening in the first place and if it was me getting abuse I would of broken off the relationship to protect myself and I think every women or anyone else getting abuse should do the same and speak up (report it). It factors the issue by Ray Rice's fiancé, Janay staying in the relationship after getting physically abuse by him. She was even by his side when he was apologizing in public but he didn’t even apologize to her. Nobody should stay in a relationship where they're getting hurt even if it was once.
As one of the "wrong doers" I think the coach, John Harbaugh because he stood by his side. I understand he wanted to support him but it seems like the situation doesn't matter to him especially it was one of his players. It shows a sign to the other players that it's okay if they mess up like Ray Rice did. The coach's actions might of affected the other players families. The coach could of explain to Rice that his action can affect the team and especially people in public but not basically cheering him on in public.
I think the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports fans that mostly of them are going to think that is okay just because a famous NFL player did it especially the younger kids that are fans. Probably years from now the NFL will handle domestic violence very seriously more than just suspending a player for only two games. College athletes might find it okay also and think of it that it won't go public because they aren't a famous athlete. But like I said years from now hopefully they start taking it very seriously and hopefully fans won't follow any footsteps.
I agree with you that the wrong-doer is the coach , because like you said he stood by his side , when he should have been the one teaching him a lesson and telling him that what he did was wrong. As one of his players , he has the responsibility on Rice , and even if this fact did not happen when the coach was there , he still has some what of responsibility for the behavior of the player. So , good job , i completely support your answer :)
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ReplyDelete1. What is our cultural perception of domestic abuse, why people get abused and who is an abuser?
- Why people get abused, in this case mother’s and wives, is because there’s violence in this world, and some people take it out on the ones they love. Some people have serious anger issues, others don’t. Many abusers, outside of their homes they are lovely people, nice and caring. Therefore, they are like wearing a mask 24/7, and wearing this mask can be difficult. So what do they do? They throw all their anxiety and problems at home, by hurting their wives or by abusing their children, and only they see the true colors of that person. This is an abuser , someone who has sufferings like any other human being , but that takes out this suffering or problems with violence on the neighbor , meaning a loved one , in this case family , spouse , siblings or children.
2. Pick one quote from the article and analyze it. What does it mean? Does the word choice influence your opinion? How does it factor into the issue at hand?
- “We can push these numbers even lower, but first we need people like Rice, the Ravens and those in the N.F.L to behave more honorably than they have in this case.”
- This quote means that , we can talk all day long about how many people get abused , we can count how many percentages we want of how many women are abused in this country , but if we do not start doing something about this very serious and important issue , it will always be there and it will always stay the same.
3. In our discussion of the topic, and of the "players" involved, there are several people or entities that might be identified as "wrong-doers". Discuss one of those wrong-doers and their involvement in the situation. How might their actions affect others and what could they have done differently? (You may NOT use Mr. Rice as an example as that would be too obvious.)
- I think the “wrong-doers” in this situation are the N.F.L and the coach. Why? Because, they both tried to pass the situation as if it was okay, but not by justifying Rice. Instead the situation is more than not okay, it is domestic violence and no matter what a woman should not be hurt or treated like that. By the action of the coach, Rice can still play and at the same time he could still be abusing his wife, and that is not good.
4. Make a prediction about how you think the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports fans.
- I think many sport fans will think it is okay to abuse by this incident, especially if they support Rice. It could also bring the opposite effect on others, which is many might lose their Interest in Rice and the team , because of what he did.
Leila,
DeleteI definitely agree with your first paragraph. I like how you said the "abusers use masks 24/7 and I agree because we can never tell who's an abuser or not. The abuser can definitely be the person you use to live an trust. I also believe that they some take their anger and problems and turns them into violence and hurt the people they care about most and they don’t even realize it. They end up wearing the mask in front of their friends, family members and they don’t even realize what's really happening.
A. Suarez
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In our culture we preceive abuse as very simple. We assume that abuse is always physical violence between a man and a woman. We don't stop to consider what type of abuse could be happening or who the victim is. People are abused because they envoys strong emotions in the abuser. In a heated argument the victim could be yelling at the abuser which would lead to physical violence from the abuser. The abuser is the one who is abusing the victim. In the situation above the abuser is the one hitting the victim.
"When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen.” - Coach John Harbaugh
This quote means when you drink abuse is bound to happen. The word choice does not influence my opinion. The coach's word choice factors in greatly. In the quote he is trying to minimize the situation and its impact. He's trying to make Rice out to be less guilty than he really is.
Another wrong-doer in this situation is the coach. He handled the situation badly and shouldn't have said what he did. In the attempt above he was trying to minimize the seriousness of the situation. He is trying to lift the guilt off of Rice and excuse Rice's behavior. He could be doing this for many reasons. I believe one of these reasons may be that he was trying to keep Rice on the team. He may also be trying not minimize the loss of money that Rice had been making that would come along with the situation.
I think this situation will change the way people view abuse. Perhaps it will make sure second guess our role models more often. I think this will effect sports fans because they will have had a greater look at abuse for those who have no before this incident. It will also effect the way the NFL handles situations such as this one in the future. In the long run I think this situation will help us to be more critical and not assume that absue is not happening around us.
A. Suarez, i agree with what was stated in the first paragraph abuse doesn't always mean physical abuse between a man and a women, it also means words can affect just as much as what physical abuse can do, it hurts as well. i also agree with what you said about the coach trying to minimize Rice's behavior he was trying to keep him on the team and also i think he was trying to keep it as if it wasn't a big deal. i agree with your last paragraph kids and most people will look carefully at they're roll models now and watch what they do in their personal lives as well.
DeleteI also agree with your first paragraph. Domestic violence is known more for physical abuse which isn't true. Domestic violence is also verbal abuse. What people say can extremely hurt the other person which can have a bigger affect.
DeleteJaslyn Ponce
ReplyDeleteWhat is our cultural perception of domestic abuse, why people get abused and who is an abuser?
I think that people get abused because they could be scared of their partners and feel intimidated to leave. The abuser is usually the one who feels they have more power in the relationship. Sometimes, the one getting abused may think the person they are with will change and stop the abuse because they love them, but what they are not realizing is that what they are doing is creating a cycle for themselves. The abuser must realize what they are doing is utterly wrong, but feel that if they aren’t seeing consequences to their actions, they can continue to do so. Sometimes in these cases, the person being abused can blind themselves from the reality of the situation that really is happening.
Pick one quote from the article and analyze it. What does it mean? Does the word choice influence your opinion? How does it factor into the issue at hand?
“Staying doesn’t excuse the abuse itself, and it can actually embolden the abuser.” This quote is explaining that after being abused, staying with the person does not make the actions done okay. By staying with an abusive person, you can enable them to feel more powerful. If you decide to stay with someone after they have hit you, you are giving them the “green light” to continue to do so since you already allowed them to do so once already. It factors in this situation with Ray Rice because he punched his fiancée in the face and afterwards, they still got married.
In our discussion of the topic, and of the "players" involved, there are several people or entities that might be identified as "wrong-doers". Discuss one of those wrong-doers and their involvement in the situation. How might their actions affect others and what could they have done differently? (You may NOT use Mr. Rice as an example as that would be too obvious.)
Janay Palmer blamed this situation on herself by saying, “I do deeply regret the role I played in the incident that night.” She is a wrong-doer because she makes it seem like she asked to get hit. Although she slapped him on the chest, he should have been able to control his anger better and either left the scene, or been able to keep his hands to himself. Just because she struck first does not make the situation any better because two wrongs don’t make a right. He is a football player and it is obvious that he has more strength that she does. However, Janay is also a wrong-doer by continuing to stay with Ray Rice and still get married because the message she is giving out is that it’s okay.
Make a prediction about how you think the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports fans.
A lot of people already have their opinions about this incident and I feel a lot of people are against Ray Rice because morally, it is wrong. Most men are taught to "never hit a woman" even though it is still done. I think that now other players, not only for the NFL, will be more controlling over their acts.
I agree with the last paragraph that people are against Race Rice. I will be one of those fans who would be against Race Rice too. Hitting a women doesn't prove that your a man, it proves your a coward. In my opinion, even if they did learn to not hit girls they will still do it anyways. I hope in the future this will never happen again.
DeleteYour right, being in a abusive relationship is giving the abuser the green light for them to do the things they do. This does become a cycle for them because they can't realize what's happening, they are blind from the reality of the situation like you said. Janay is definitely giving off the wrong message to the people by staying in this relationship when she should be speaking out against such acts. She's has the chance to use her voice towards domestic violence, she should be trying to uplift but she's not and it may be because she's afraid :/
DeleteI also agree with being in a abusive relationship is like giving the abuser the green like to do what they do. I also agree with the way Janay looks in this situation. She is giving off the wrong idea by staying in a abusive relationship. Instead she should walk away from the relationship and step up to domestic violence. No lady should go threw domestic violence.
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yes most men are told dont hit women but they seem to still fall victim to it , why i dont know why men take all adsvises but this one ...lol
Delete1. What is our cultural perception of domestic abuse, why people get abused and who is an abuser?
ReplyDeleteMy cultural perception if that nobody get abused by nobody. I think that it is not fair that the strong picks on the weak so they can feel soupier. But it might take someone life because of bulling. For example, someone was telling me a story that a boy did suicide because someone bulling so much that the boy didn’t want to live anymore. I really hate when the abuser gets the joy picking on the weak and don’t get what’s coming to them. I hope in the future that bulling will stop and others will speak up to bulling.
2. Pick one quote from the article and analyze it. What does it mean? Does the word choice influence your opinion? How does it factor into the issue at hand?
The quote I choose “when you drink too much in public, those kinds of things happen said John Harbaugh. I believe that if someone drinks too much tend to do crazy things without them their selves knowing of what they’re doing. In my opinion, when someone drinks too much they will fight the other player for no reason or it is because they don’t like how the other person looks. This quote really confuses me because of how he said it. I believe he couldn’t think of a way to come up with any ideas.
3. In our discussion of the topic, and of the "players" involved, there are several people or entities that might be identified as "wrong-doers". Discuss one of those wrong-doers and their involvement in the situation. How might their actions affect others and what could they have done differently? (You may NOT use Mr. Rice as an example as that would be too obvious.)
In article there are and a lot of wrong doers, but mostly I believe it is the wife. I think she could of defense herself in front of her husband. She has a right to fight for this. But the problem was that she was afraid if her husband would attack her again. I think she really want to say something but couldn’t because maybe she thought that it would bring his fans to hate him. In my opinion, she would have devoiced him in front of the public to show everyone she has the confidence to do it.
4. Make a prediction about how you think the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports fans.
My prediction about Ray Rice release from the team is the right idea they made. I’m sure that the fans will get mad and won’t care for what he did because he is the best basketball player. Also, whoever were Rice fans will be glad that they suspend him from the raven. They should care because if they still let him there that’s not fair if he gets away from it. In the future I hope that the NFL would take it seriously of picking people to put their careers in jeopardy.
i always agree that abusers are just bullies from the start ..
DeleteOur cultural perception of domestic abuse to me is very serious to me because no one in my cultural should be getting domestic abuse in any way. Why people get abused maybe its because someone wanted to let there anger out on you and abuses you for it. Or maybe the person wanted to really abuse you in a serious way. And the abuser could be your owe boyfriend or even a closes friend you been cool with ever since you were young. Or better yet your owe father or mother could abuse you as well and you wont be able to do nothing about because you just might be scared for you life.
ReplyDeleteThere's no justifying what happened, when you drink too much in public those kind of things happen. Its basically means that when your outside drinking in a public place and get to drunk bad things might happen. This influence my choices in way that if you get drunk outside some bad things might just happen I'm not saying I will but just might. The factor of the issue is simple don't go outside and get drunk. It might just lead you to hurt someone or do something you will regret later on. Just Ray Rice does every day when hes reads about in the paper or even when his owe team meats talk about it toward him.
I would say that the wrong doer would be Janay Palmer for hitting Ray Rice first. Although know one mentions this about Janay taking the first strike at her fiance. These allegations were on put on Ray Rice for hitting her and leaving her unconscious on the floor in the elevator. I believe that if Janay Palmer never even remotely touch him in the elevator he never would of reacted the way he did. Janay Palmer should of just stood her ground in the elevator and and handle the situation a little bit differently. But with all that said and done i think she was the wrong doer in this case. If she never would of done what she did none of that would of happen to her.
My prediction about Ray Rice and his saga on how this would impact his sport fan and there perception about domestic violence. To be honest i dont that Ray Rices fans really care about what he did and about domestic violence. True what he did was wrong but do the people real care though? That the questions people should be looking at. All they want is for Ray Rice to continue his saga in the NFL and by gone's to what ever he did. Even if it was domestic violence. Sports fans just want this man back in the game plain and simple.
1. “Our cultural perception of who gets abused is "that woman" who is with a man that abuses drugs and alcohol because we believed the male was more dominant than the other. We make it seem like the one who gets abused is "that women" because she is afraid and scared to leave the relationship so she sticks around for the abuse. The one who is deeply in love with the man who abuses her because he makes her feel like it’s her fault while playing mind games.” "That women" is our cultural perception of who gets abused because it was believed before "that women" was inferior than the other many years back.
ReplyDelete2. “I do deeply regret the role I played in the incident that night” was said by Janay Palmer, the wife who was struck by Ray Rice. Her saying “she deeply regrets” the role she played in that night shows that she actually believes she had a part on why she was hit. It may be because she’s in love with that man so she sticks around trying to justify what happened which could also mean she afraid to speak out against him. After this incident its clear to show who’s inferior and who dominates the relationship.
3. One of the wrong-doers of this situation is Janay Palmer due to the fact that she believed she had a part on why she was struck and that it was her fault when it wasn't. She's not the only one who goes through this but because this incident was brought to light she has an affect on people. She played a big role in this situation and what she should've done differently is have some self respect for herself. She tried to make a wrong seem right by taking most of the blame and degrading herself into being "that woman" I gave as an example in the first paragraph.
4. The Ray Rice saga will have an impact on the perception of fans towards domestic violence because it's not everyday something like this is brought to light even though it happens everyday. The impact it's going to have is negative. Fans are going to see there's no justice served because domestic violence is not really the issue here, it's whether or not Ray Rice is able to play. Fans should be alert on who they love because that superstar they admire might be that other someone they hate.
I agree with you about your predication on the Ray Rice Saga. Fans should be careful of the superstar they love. You had valid points with your statement about your prediction. A valid point would be that the impact is going to be negative. That's true cause fans should be careful of their role model.
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Delete1. What is our cultural perception of domestic abuse, why people get abused and who is an abuser?
ReplyDelete-Yes, majority of the time it’s the female that gets abused by the male but, I believe that domestic abuse goes both ways. I understand that at times men get highly upset, annoyed, and/or feel intimidated by their spouse. But, it doesn’t give them a right to lay their hands on any woman. I also believe that the male could be getting abused also. Example, in a relationship the woman might feel like she has more power over the male because maybe the male doesn’t speak up for himself. I have seen a relationship where the female would physically and mentally abuse her spouse and he will do nothing about it. Which makes her feel as if she has power.
2. Pick one quote from the article and analyze it. What does it mean? Does the word choice influence your opinion? How does it factor into the issue at hand?
-In the article, “A Punch Is Seen, and a Player Is Out” written by Ken Belson the quote “Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role that she played the night of the incident.”
-I believe what Mrs. Rice was trying to take the full responsibility on what happened the night she got knocked out in the elevator, as if it was fault. I’m debating if she was smart about her statement or stupid. Reason I feel that her statement is stupid because she is basically saying that it was her fault he punched her and knocked her out and honestly it isn’t her fault regardless what led to it. I believe a man needs to “grow a pair” and leave the situation alone. Instead of letting the anger get to you and taking matter into your own hands, and making a regretful decision.
3. In our discussion of the topic, and of the "players" involved, there are several people or entities that might be identified as "wrong-doers". Discuss one of those wrongdoers and their involvement in the situation. How might their actions affect others and what could they have done differently?
-I believe that there were multiple “wrong-doers” in this situation, especially the coach for the Ravens. He knew the situation before the video got leaked and still he let Ray Rice be part of the team. Instead of the coach letting Ray Rice be part of the team he should have punished him sooner by letting him go.
4. Make a prediction about how you think the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports fans.
-My prediction on this Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports players is that now they should think twice before committing a crime like domestic violence. As for the sports fans yes they will always remember what a player did but as time goes by the memory will fade and they will only worry about their performance.
-Krystal Garcia
yes i to agree that abuse goes both ways no matter hows intended
DeleteMy cultural perception of domestic abuse is that is wrong in every way. It’s never right to put your hands on anybody. The reason why I think people get abuse is because they get manipulated by the abuser by believing everything the abuser would tells them just because they think the abuser does it because he/she loves them or they hope one day they’ll change. An abuser is a person who’s weak and doesn’t know how to control their anger.
ReplyDelete“Everyone who was affected by this situation that me and my wife were in”. said by Ray Rice. This shows that Ray Rice doesn’t really care about the fact that he knocked his wife out. He’s acting as if this is something normal that people in relationships go through, but is bigger than that. In fact is crime that causes a lot of damage to the victim.
In my opinion one of the “wrong-doers” that caught my attention the most was coach John Harbaugh. What he was supped to do when he first heard about this situation was kick Ray Rice out the team, but instead he decided to just suspend him. Having someone like Ray Rice representing the Ravens’ team makes the whole team look bad.
My pretention about how I think the Ray Rice saga will impact presentations of domestic violence by sports fans is that ignorant people will support no matter what, but others sports fans won’t because they know it’s wrong they and they wouldn’t want their kids to look up to a person like that.
What is our cultural perception of domestic abuse, why people get abused and who is an abuser? The way I see it I that the man is usually the abuser. Now, on the aspect of why people get abused? There are many reasons why for exsample, money and who makes more if it. Who is the strongest, stress can cause problems too, bills etc.
ReplyDeletePick one quote, I chose what Palmer said: she stated that she played part in the incident. This clearly shows the signs of abused woman . What it meant to me was that she felts it was her fault he hit her, that’s not right. And by her saying that in public wasn’t smart because it tries to simulate that it was ok to hit women if they get out of line ….. please
In our discussion of the topic, and of the "players" involved, there are several people or entities that might be identified as "wrong-doers". Discuss one of those wrong-doers and their involvement in the situation. How might their actions affect others and what could they have done differently?
People that played a part in this situation that acted out as wrong doers where many , but the main one was Ms. Palmer. Why do I feel this way was because what are you showing the public.. where is your self worth. I you allow a person , any person from husband, to a person you work with you can not allow any one to abuse on you . I feel like if she can stand next to the man that assaulted her an d” forgive” him without an apology. Is in definitely wrong. And her actions effects the way we as people handle these types of situations , she chose the wrong one.
Make a prediction about how you think the Ray Rice saga will impact perceptions of domestic violence by sports fans. I think that we shouldn’t use the Ray Rice problem as an exsample but as a person in a community that suffers from a lot a domestic violence issues , athelites as much as celebraies should make a change in how they deal with problems the right way and do things that teaches or influence their fans to do the right thing also .. like they say two wrongs don’t make a right
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ReplyDelete1) Generally domestic abuse is today’s culture is mostly the male abusing the female partner. To correct this domestic violence is a behavior that includes violence by someone to another individual involving between spouses or an intimate partner. This include same sex and either person can be the abuser and the abused person. There are many reasons why people become abuse and continue to experience it until the abused person does something about it or someone has to step in. In this case anyone can be the abuser and same goes for the abused, regardless of gender.
ReplyDelete2) The obvious one is the raven’s coach states “He’s a person of character, what is really important is to be able to support the person without condoning the action. He makes a mistake. There’s no justifying what happened. When you drink too much in public, those kind of things happen.” Personally he picked a wrong choice of words. I understand he tried to make a point Ray Rice is a human being and there’s no such thing as an idea of perfection but lost the momentum when he quotes that he had too much to drink. Being a football player or any profession you have to understand you have to be responsible. In this day and age it’s almost impossible for acts like this to become unnoticed. It is no excuse to blame the influence of alcohol when the individual ray rice’s decision to be in that influence. It felt like he wanted to protect one of his prized players and use a measly excuse to change the mindset of some people.
3) The NFL’s decision to suspend Ray Rice out of two games was one of the key factors. It angered a lot of people of all ranges and I couldn’t blame them. Until the release of the second video it showed how light the NFL’s decision was and gave a bad reputation at that point. The association should have taken the proper action and gave Ray Rice the proper punishment from the rules he broke they set themselves and the contract he agreed on. It shows they didn’t take this matter seriously and pass off a slap on the wrist punishment and hoped for this matter to fade. Hypothetically the NFL did take the matter seriously the opinions of fans and anybody else for that matter would not criticize their decision and have a negative mindset towards the association.
4) This affects fans of all ranges including age for older and young audiences. If Ray Rice was able to in sense get away with a serious crime of domestic violence it shows the fans that this act of violence was not taken seriously enough. I would speak for parents who have daughters that they would’t like the idea of their child to be physically harmed in any way. If a player of the NFL was able to walk away with no serious punishment then there is no justice if celebrities like him get away with. The status of this celebrity grants him some form of immunity comparing to a regular person committed this crime and receive full punishment if guilty. Back to the point of the daughter/parent topic I wouldn’t like my daughter or anybody else’s to accept the idea that domestic abuse is acceptable.
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